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RickGroesbeck
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 Posted - 06 Jul 2003 : 07:14:43
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We sometimes furl the jib before hoisting the gennaker, especially in light air. On such occasions the gennaker halyard and/or the forestay sometimes get twisted into the jib as we furl the jib. Any suggestions? We try to keep the forestay fairly tight, but it sometimes works loose. It is also hard to keep tension on the gennaker halyard.
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AlisterBeveridge
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Posted - 07 Jul 2003 : 12:37:22
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Your problems are not uncommon but easily solved. I am assuming that you tie your forestay to the base of the mast whilst sailing? If not you should as it keeps the gennaker well away from the forestay. When I tie my forestay back to the base of the mast I still clip the wire hoop to the forestay. This prevents it spinning round when furling. Some people actually remove the wire hoop and this would probably work but I don't want to remove parts of my boat. Before furling make sure that you pull the uphaul on the gennaker halyard slightly to remove any slack. Make sure that everything is taped that the gennaker can get to, including the tie off point on the bow for the forestay that is now at the base of the mast. You mention in your other message that your gennaker tore on the head of the jib. Are you sure as I can't quite see how (other than the head) any part of the sail could reach that point unless you slow on the drops and it is blowing back. I am not quite sure what you mean about the halyard not being tight. Do you mean when hoisted or when in the sock before furling the jib? If you mean in the sock then you won't get the halyard tight as pulling it tight extends the pole and hoists the sail. the best that you can achieve is no slack. The other way of handling the furling problem is to hoist the gennaker then furl the jib. Hope this helps.
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DougRivers
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Posted - 07 Jul 2003 : 16:13:15
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There always seems to be a risk of the genaker halyard twisting whatever you do. I just check that it is blowing away to leeward before furling. As Alastair says, furl after hoisting.
The forestay should be tied at the mast after the jib is up and not left up at the bow. Just remember to tie back at the bow before letting the jib down!
As to the forestay furling loop, I never did figue out what it was meant to do and bent it back and taped it up on day 1. |
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RickGroesbeck
USA
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Posted - 07 Jul 2003 : 18:42:30
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1. How do you secure the forestay to the mast after raising the jib? (I can think of ways to do it, but would like to learn from others' experience.) I think it would be important to keep the forestay taunt so the jib head furling hoop will be held in place enabling the jib to be quickly furled/unfurled.
2. Good idea to tape the forestay tie-off point (loop). What kind of tape have you been using?
3. If you take the forestay off each time you sail, do you tie it back on each time you dock, or could you find a small clip that would fit into the tie-off point.
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AlisterBeveridge
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Posted - 07 Jul 2003 : 19:06:32
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I tie the forestay to the mast by wrapping the cord around the seat (thwart) or if I am in the mood I drop the cord directly in front of the mast and tie it off on the mast fitting that is used to secure the rear of the gennaker pole. It is quite easy to get enough tension on the, by now vertical, forestay to enable efficient furling.
I use ordinary electrical tape to cover the loop on the bow. The same tape I use for covering the shroud plates and also the shackles at the top and bottom of the jib. I would also tape the screws used to secure the front of the sock.
I have heard of some people using a small clip to move the forestay back and forward but I would imagine that this is only effective if you never adjust mast rake etc. By adjusting the rigging the clip on the end of the forestay, now being a fixed length, may be too long or too short.
If you start moving the forestay don't forget to move it back to the bow before lowering the jib.
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AlisterBeveridge
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Posted - 07 Jul 2003 : 19:07:05
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I tie the forestay to the mast by wrapping the cord around the seat (thwart) or if I am in the mood I drop the cord directly in front of the mast and tie it off on the mast fitting that is used to secure the rear of the gennaker pole. It is quite easy to get enough tension on the, by now vertical, forestay to enable efficient furling.
I use ordinary electrical tape to cover the loop on the bow. The same tape I use for covering the shroud plates and also the shackles at the top and bottom of the jib. I would also tape the screws used to secure the front of the sock.
I have heard of some people using a small clip to move the forestay back and forward but I would imagine that this is only effective if you never adjust mast rake etc. By adjusting the rigging the clip on the end of the forestay, now being a fixed length, may be too long or too short.
If you start moving the forestay don't forget to move it back to the bow before lowering the jib.
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AlisterBeveridge
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Posted - 07 Jul 2003 : 19:07:44
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I tie the forestay to the mast by wrapping the cord around the seat (thwart) or if I am in the mood I drop the cord directly in front of the mast and tie it off on the mast fitting that is used to secure the rear of the gennaker pole. It is quite easy to get enough tension on the, by now vertical, forestay to enable efficient furling.
I use ordinary electrical tape to cover the loop on the bow. The same tape I use for covering the shroud plates and also the shackles at the top and bottom of the jib. I would also tape the screws used to secure the front of the sock.
I have heard of some people using a small clip to move the forestay back and forward but I would imagine that this is only effective if you never adjust mast rake etc. By adjusting the rigging the clip on the end of the forestay, now being a fixed length, may be too long or too short.
If you start moving the forestay don't forget to move it back to the bow before lowering the jib. |
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AlisterBeveridge
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Posted - 07 Jul 2003 : 19:12:38
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I tie the forestay to the mast by wrapping the cord around the seat (thwart) or if I am in the mood I drop the cord directly in front of the mast and tie it off on the mast fitting that is used to secure the rear of the gennaker pole. It is quite easy to get enough tension on the, by now vertical, forestay to enable efficient furling.
I use ordinary electrical tape to cover the loop on the bow. The same tape I use for covering the shroud plates and also the shackles at the top and bottom of the jib. I would also tape the screws used to secure the front of the sock.
I have heard of some people using a small clip to move the forestay back and forward but I would imagine that this is only effective if you never adjust mast rake etc. By adjusting the rigging the clip on the end of the forestay, now being a fixed length, may be too long or too short.
If you start moving the forestay don't forget to move it back to the bow before lowering the jib. |
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